The reason Lit doesn't get much attention is not because it's not appreciated, but more because of the elitist stuck up snobbery which sends many could be great writers walking away.
Comment, June 1: http://comments.deviantart.com/5/5526118/139455455No wonder writers get no respect if most of the rest of dA think they're prima donna's thanks to the way some of them behave, I am ashamed to be a writer if those are the sort of people I am associated with.
Comment, June 2: http://comments.deviantart.com/5/5530327/139645881I've been accused of being a elitist who is harsh on art due to having high standards but I'm a little fish about being an ass about elitism compared to some of these people.
Comment, June 3: http://comments.deviantart.com/5/5530327/139722307That it gives the impression that Lit is all full of entitlement whores who want it their way.
Comment, June 7: http://comments.deviantart.com/5/5530327/140909146The Lit community is known for pouting and dramawhoring so I'm not terribly surprised at the reaction.
Comment, June 8: http://comments.deviantart.com/5/5530327/141168746I'm saying that if certain trouble I've been hearing about is actually carried out then there will be a few less Lit Deviants around.
Staff Forum, June 8: http://forum.deviantart.com/staff/devart/432460/8449622If they keep it up or start breaking policy repeatedly over it then just ban the ringleaders, they have to learn that throwing a tantrum isn't going to get them their way.
Staff Forum, June 8: http://forum.deviantart.com/staff/devart/432460/8449759 Staff Forum, June 8: http://forum.deviantart.com/staff/devart/432460/8448230I think some members of the Lit community need their mouths washed out with soap in order to learn to complain without spitting insults at everything that moves.
Staff Forum, June 8: http://forum.deviantart.com/staff/devart/432460/8448230I'll be working together for community spirit when dA Lit stops trying to segregate itself and demand special treatment.
Journal entry, June 18: http://subversive-imaginati.deviantart.com/journal/5683574/ Comment, June 20: http://comments.deviantart.com/5/5696054/144861390I'm a bit soured generally towards writing or reading since lately I've had to put up with an ongoing barrage from the status-quo of the Lit community because they think it's okay to be rude and obnoxious in the name of "Quality control".
Comment, June 20, Suggestions Forum: http://forum.deviantart.com/devart/suggestions/442713/8632249 Comment, June 23: http://comments.deviantart.com/5/5696054/145724090in the last week alone I've counted at least three featured either written by someone close to the Lit GDs or reccomended by them. This is the kettle calling, you're black too.
Comment, June 23, maligning a GD's integrity: http://comments.deviantart.com/5/5696054/145696739Just read any Lit DD appart from my picks, chances are it is their work or they suggested it.
Journal entry, June 23: http://subversive-imaginati.deviantart.com/journal/5734059/I've been telling off deviants from all sections of the community and it just seems to be getting worse.
if you can't argue your point without resorting to flames pick up your keyboard and slam it into your face until you are no longer stupid.
Journal entry, June 22, bitching at the Lit Community: http://subversive-imaginati.deviantart.com/journal/5696054/Frankly I don't want to be associated with you people at all. The bile you pour out is an appalling example of community spirit. I'm just giving you a mirror to look at it.
Deviation, submitted June 22, entitled “Ode to the daily deviations”: http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/19755541/ Comment on same deviation, submitted June 22: http://comments.deviantart.com/1/19755541/145660683 Comment on same deviation, submitted June 22: http://comments.deviantart.com/1/19755541/146952250I stopped respecting the Lit community's status quo's judgement when it became obvious that the group believe that comments using words which would be better employed to describe the commenter's attitudes were perfectly acceptable.
Comment, June 26, extolling her virtues as a “bitch”: http://comments.deviantart.com/5/5696054/146457765 Journal entry, June 27: http://subversive-imaginati.deviantart.com/journal/5773173/I will no longer be submitting my writing to dA and will be taking every single piece of it off because I no longer wish to have anything to do with a Literature community that rewards bitchiness and backbiting. Your "community's" upper levels are nothing more than a big circle jerk, an utter disgrace. You're right though, Lit on dA is dead and you are the ones with your hands around it's throat.
Comment, June 27, suggesting people find a different site to post their writing: http://comments.deviantart.com/5/5773173/147034607it (DA) was never primarily intended for writers, in fact I consider it a poor website for writers. There are way too many amateurs really for a dA literature effort to be taken seriously, perhaps you should join epilogue? they have a writing section though I've not looked at it.
Comment, June 27, maligning the Lit Community: http://comments.deviantart.com/5/5773173/147038232Seriously I'm at the point where I want to give it up entirely because if what I've seen in dA's lit community is common amoung writers then I want nothing to do with that kind of poisonous atmosphere.
Comment, June 27, more maligning: http://comments.deviantart.com/5/5773173/147289525 Comment, June 27: http://comments.deviantart.com/1/19755541/146994093I find it quite laughable how it's okay for you and your friends to throw around insults about me and to behave in a manner better fitting 5 year olds yet when you come under return fire it's suddenly unprofessional of me.
Comment, June 27, again, maligning my integrity: http://comments.deviantart.com/1/19755541/147033766Heck even your own GDs have ignored blatant PVs.
I can count the number of people I would consider worth listening to in the lit community for any amount of time on the fingers of one hand.
Comment, June 29: http://comments.deviantart.com/5/5765083/147406396You guy's are never going to change my opinion on the Lit community at this rate, just further force it to stick to where it is.
"...so I have a temper. Is that such a bad thing?
May 23: http://comments.deviantart.com/5/5439559/136866068It's payment enough to be able to wave a ban stick at morons.
June 3: http://subversive-imaginati.deviantart.com/journal/5540012/if I think you're being an idiot, you'll probably get told it.
June 3: http://subversive-imaginati.deviantart.com/journal/5540012/I'm fairly outspoken for a moderator and quicker to fight than some, so I have a temper. Is that such a bad thing?
June 3: http://subversive-imaginati.deviantart.com/journal/5540012/impugn my honor and you'll be eating your words if I have anything to say about it.
June 3: http://subversive-imaginati.deviantart.com/journal/5540012/Yes, I'm stubborn, Yes I can be an absolute bitch at times, however don't expect to walk all over me then complain when you can't.
June 5: http://forum.deviantart.com/devart/suggestions/433146/8413617I find once I've chewed out one, others are reluctant to try me because I've got a rep for being a nasty enemy when roused to anger
June 6: http://subversive-imaginati.deviantart.com/journal/5566686/You want me to consider doing things your way? Try not pissing me off.
June 18: http://comments.deviantart.com/5/5683574/144507211I'm pretty forthright, if I think someone is a moron then I'll call them a moron.
Plotting to deliberately antagonize deviants, June 21: http://comments.deviantart.com/5/5696054/144935438I've a omg boobs one coming up. And a couple that are bound to piss them off majorly. I may be an ass but I'm getting fed up of hearing ranting and raving on this subject.
June 21: http://comments.deviantart.com/5/5696054/144938286I'm sure they'll be impressed when I show them my banstick if they step out of line.
June 22: http://comments.deviantart.com/5/5696054/145342115Most of the people who disagree either don't have the guts to openly say it on my page where they'll be shredded alive
June 22: http://subversive-imaginati.deviantart.com/journal/5696054/I've received some complaints for bitching about a certain set of users. Apparently I should let it go or some crap like that.
June 22: http://subversive-imaginati.deviantart.com/journal/5696054/Either people will behave like decent humans or they will be chewed out. I have a low tolerance for people who think they can behave any way they like and not get called on it. So I'm quite prepared to tell off those who are behaving poorly.
June 23: http://subversive-imaginati.deviantart.com/journal/5734059/I've been telling off deviants from all sections of the community and it just seems to be getting worse.
June 23: http://subversive-imaginati.deviantart.com/journal/5734059/If I see something I think is fucked up I can and will say that is fucked up.
June 23: http://comments.deviantart.com/5/5696054/145724090Your section of the community is not so special that it is not going to catch some of the flack it hands out in spades straight back.
June 23: http://comments.deviantart.com/5/5696054/145750832Also ms sensative, the journal was originally refering to a lot of fucking people, that's why it was so goddamn vague. But no because I've argued with you it must be all about the precious perfect 'lit community'. I'll get over it when people like you don't come along and piss me off again at regular intervals
June 23: http://comments.deviantart.com/5/5734059/145751875I'm just standing up because I'm not one to back down and I bite back.
June 23: http://comments.deviantart.com/5/5696054/145750832go whine to ndifference if you like about the mean old PVA who dares to express her personal opinion on gasp her personal space and then has the audacity to give you a mouthful back when you get in her face about an opinion.
June 26: http://comments.deviantart.com/5/5696054/146457765I've been doing this and similar stuff since I was old enough to talk, I've stared down people several times my age before now. In fact I'm so well known for being impossible to bully or cajole that people refer to me not as a bitch but as the bitch.
June 27: http://subversive-imaginati.deviantart.com/journal/5773173/You can disagree fine but the instant you resort to rudeness to disagree do not then have the hypocrisy to protest when you get it straight back in spades.
July 4: http://subversive-imaginati.deviantart.com/journal/5834078/I can tell you I don't like you or what you stand for and I can hold a personal opinion. And believe me, I bloody well will.
July 4: http://subversive-imaginati.deviantart.com/journal/5834078/don't you dare jump all over me outside of professional duties then bitch about it when I behave like a human being and tear you a new one.
July 4: http://subversive-imaginati.deviantart.com/journal/5834078/I've had it up to the back teeth with being told how to act by a bunch of fucktards who can't follow a simple set of rules themselves.
July 4: http://subversive-imaginati.deviantart.com/journal/5834078/I know I'm not the soul of reasonableness myself all the time but really jumping up in my face and pitching a fit isn't likely to get anything out of me but a bunch of rudeness straight back. I know I'm supposed to be professional and all that
July 4: http://subversive-imaginati.deviantart.com/journal/5834078/you get up in my face, you'd better be prepared to run because I'll have your guts for garters.
July 6: http://subversive-imaginati.deviantart.com/journal/5855523/I'm tempted to permanently ban the next person who thinks they can change this by acting like an asshat.
October 6: http://comments.deviantart.com/18/505580/313199799If you have an A level in literature and language then they're right about standards dropping and tests getting easier.
October 6: http://comments.deviantart.com/18/505580/313200982Aww diddums was SI all mean to you? Typing like a moron then claim you have qualifications that would indicate you should be capable of typing to a reasonable standard and you're going to get lambasted. You're either lying or you're a nitwit who is incapable of bothering to put into practice your training which makes getting the qualification pointless.
October 6: http://comments.deviantart.com/18/505580/313202054Amazing, you actually managed to sound about five years old. I wonder if you can possibly type anything that would be less intelligable.
Journals Bitching about Someone or Other:
First Week (of being on Staff), May 23: http://subversive-imaginati.deviantart.com/journal/5439559/ Daily Deviations, June 1: http://subversive-imaginati.deviantart.com/journal/5526118/ Carrying On, June 3: http://subversive-imaginati.deviantart.com/journal/5530327/ A little about me and how I see myself, June 3: http://subversive-imaginati.deviantart.com/journal/5540012/ People, June 6: http://subversive-imaginati.deviantart.com/journal/5566686/ Some People, June 10: http://subversive-imaginati.deviantart.com/journal/5605960/ Daily Deviations, June 18: http://subversive-imaginati.deviantart.com/journal/5683574/ Customer Service + DD + Edit, June 22: http://subversive-imaginati.deviantart.com/journal/5696054/ My Personal Space, June 23: http://subversive-imaginati.deviantart.com/journal/5734059/ Community Efforts, June 27: http://subversive-imaginati.deviantart.com/journal/5773173/ Stuff this for a lark, July 4: http://subversive-imaginati.deviantart.com/journal/5834078/ Various bitching, July 6: http://subversive-imaginati.deviantart.com/journal/5855523/ Brattis totalas, July 18: http://subversive-imaginati.deviantart.com/journal/5963698/ He said she did, July 20: http://subversive-imaginati.deviantart.com/journal/5984801/ Naff off...no really please do, July 20: http://subversive-imaginati.deviantart.com/journal/5986062/ Opinions, August 17: http://subversive-imaginati.deviantart.com/journal/6251053/ Daily deviations, August 29: http://subversive-imaginati.deviantart.com/journal/6356711/ Etiquette, Sept. 1: http://subversive-imaginati.deviantart.com/journal/6384834/Who else has a problem with this Staff member?
http://comments.deviantart.com/5/6489079/170798574`bren: "trolls....beating...bloody good smack down? nice...and coming from a Policy Violations Staffer."
SI: "Please note being staff doesn't not mean I'm no longer entitled to an opinion..."
`bren: "you call that an opinion...I call it poor staff behavior."
SI: "So it's poor behaviour to be annoyed at people over things they've done? Wow... Thank you for enlightening me, I shall from now on become a paragon of forgiveness and tolerance ... Not."
`bren: "Of course not. Being annoyed is a normal human emotion. It's how you've expressed that emotion that caused me to comment to you.
And about that previous comment - trolls, verbally beating and bloody good smack down? I was suprised to see you are a policy violator staffer. The exact behavior I see you and other staff members complaining about in journals and comments.
And I don't appreciate the giggling and sarcasm."
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http://forum.deviantart.com/devart/senior/477861/9503234`insaneone: "Reread the numerous post you post everyday and just think bout how childish and dramatic you sound...say "oh they all jump me"...but then you do the same, buts that ok because you are a PVA and have that right, only funny thing is you don't see other PVA running around with this shit attitude you have, they actually try to help people not go writing rant after rant about how everyones an idiot but you."
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http://forum.deviantart.com/devart/senior/477861/9491858SI: "Tell me precisely why you think staff should be required to listen to people, a number of whom have proven to be pushy, rude and demanding at best?"
`Itirep: "because it's your job to do so."
SI: "As someone who has had to field complaints, I do have to say the vast majority of complaint's made against me to me have been attacks, rhetoric, rudeness, assumptions and rumour spreading disguised as complaints."
`Itirep: "that might make you want to take a look at how you handle yourself. if the vast majority are so negative against you- that speaks volumes."
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http://subversive-imaginati.deviantart.com/journal/6517754/The PVA Guidebook, written by realitysquared, states the following: *Care should be taken that an expressed opinion is not viewed as overly aggressive, and equal care should be taken to not disregard, belittle, or otherwise suppress the opinions of other deviantART users. Keep that in mind when reading this next series of comments directed at a deviantART user named Toffee. And click the link. After SI says all this, after she violates her PVA guidelines, her superior, realitysquared, enters the fray and threatens toffee. If you wonder why SI was allowed to get away with all the comments you have read in this enormous list, that should clear it up for you. This is your PVA in action.
toffee: "dA is not a sentient being, it is merely a collection of people, and certain people are angry. As you so correctly said your a just a pva, you dont make any of decisions that affect the site [speaking in the terms of the general populace] and henceforth you are not in any position to "...want to fix it.". And before you say it this isn't about °jark [although i am dissapointed in the way the affair was executed] it's about how dA has changed. The members used to have a choice, we could say yes or no. we dont have a voice anymore, if spyed or any of the higher class admins decide to change something they will do it regardless of what the general populace wants. This is what i am dejected about. "Lets push out those who cannot behave themselves" -rofl, reading between the lines this basicly means anyone who doesn't agree with whatever the ops say. I was banned for 1 week for using the term "imbecilic twit" the personal i said this to called me a "fuckin perv" and got banned for 1 day., why should i support admins who would show such bias towards there members and act upon them?
SI: "Toffee, if you drag Jark's issues into my journals one more time ... I'm going to tear you a new one. You know sweet FA about anything.
"Lets push out those who cannot behave themselves" It means, push out those who go around spamming and deliberately abusing other people not everyone who doesn't agree or have you become so frigging much of a tin foil hatter than you're hunting for meanings where there isn't any?
Here's a clue, stop being such a tin foil hatter and stop attacking everyone who disagrees with you, you might stay unbanned then. I've warned you before, my journal is not your fucking soapbox, go preach to someone who actually will swallow your regurgitated bullshit. You are trying my patience."
SI: "Are you having trouble comprehending that someone who knows better than you might not want you ignorance rammed down her throat or are you just trying to be annoying?"
SI: "I can't imagine anyone will be upset with me telling you to naff off and use your own journal as a soapbox instead of spouting ignorance in mine."
SI: "Because I've had enough of your whining, drama whoring, rumour mongering and overall commentary that sounds like you forgot to engage your brain before typing."
SI: "I pretty much said your 'opinion' was just bullshit facts regurgitated"